More often than not, I’m being asked what can or should happen for those of us that have been wronged by The Rainmaker Family in some sort of capacity.
There are a few sides to this:
As a consumer, or someone who feels they were deceived with slimy sales tactics, false pretenses and beyond, you in fact DO have recourse.
If you’ve left negative reviews or complaints to or about The Rainmaker Family privately or publicly, and have been threatened with legal action against you, you DO have recourse. This also includes language in contracts you were possibly forced to sign to participate in the program.
The infamous 10K Payday Guarantee. If you believe you are entitled to this guarantee, but were denied, you have options for action.
Finally, those of us that worked or work for Rainmakers. Most, if not all (anyone?) of us were 1099 contractors between the years of 2019 and 2023 (I don’t have first hand knowledge of since then, so use your own information, please). In my opinion, were treated as though we were employees according to California labor laws and the U.S. Department of Labor. Because of this, many of us were subjected to unfair employment practices, tax repercussions and loss of income.
The following information applies for anyone that falls into any of these.
FOR CONSUMERS (those who entered and paid for the program in ANY CAPACITY):
a repost from Kneupper & Covey (original post)
written by Kevin Kneupper
Our law firm is representing multiple clients with legal claims against The Rainmaker Family for unfair and deceptive practices – and if you’ve suffered from something similar, we’d like to talk to you.
Kneupper & Covey is a consumer protection law firm with a particular focus in combatting online fraud. Our firm was created when the founding attorneys, Kevin and Cyclone, decided to try to hunt down the companies behind the “free trial scam” that targeted elderly consumers for never-ending subscriptions. No one thought it could be done – but after tracing through hundreds of shell companies and a series of big class action wins, the firm has grown to seven full-time attorneys.
We’ve sued everyone from online course scammers to shady car dealers, and we’ve gotten coverage for our efforts to protect consumers in big news outlets like CNBC, Time Magazine, and Newsweek.
Now we’re hearing reports about The Rainmaker Family – a company promoting courses and services relating to Amazon FBA businesses – and we’ve already taken on multiple clients who think they got an unfair deal.
If you think you were treated unfairly or deceptively by The Rainmaker Family, we may be able to represent you, too. Contact us by completing our claim form here.
What is Amazon FBA?
Amazon FBA stands for “Fulfilled By Amazon.” It’s a way that small businesses can sell their products on Amazon, with Amazon handling the shipments. And for a few years, lots of people made a lot of money doing it. But once the word got out, and Amazon FBA got hyped online as a way to make money, competition got fierce. And some of the people who weren’t making so much money anymore decided to switch to selling courses instead of selling on Amazon.
Fad courses promising lots of money from a business opportunity are nothing new – from programming boot camps, to multi-level marketing, to late night TV ads about people supposedly buying yachts by getting in on the next big thing, they’ve been around forever. But now they’re on Facebook, Instagram, and Tiktok – and when a “business opportunity” course doesn’t deliver what it promised, or even puts you in dangerous levels of debt you weren’t expecting, you may have legal claims.
What is The Rainmaker Family?
The Rainmaker Family is a company that claims to have helped tens of thousands of moms create their own businesses to make money by working from home. They claim to help moms set up businesses on Amazon, and advertise or promote themselves on various social media accounts.
What are people alleging that The Rainmaker Family is doing wrong?
You only have to look at the negative reviews on websites like Trustpilot to see that there are a lot of complaints about The Rainmaker Family’s program, and if you’ve suffered from something similar, you may have a legal claim.
One of the big complaints is that moms are being told that an Amazon FBA business is perfect for them because it doesn’t take much time to make money. Reviewers say that they were told it would only take a few hours a day, and that a mom can run this kind of business in between taking care of their kids. But they claim this isn’t true—that actually the business isn’t easy, and isn’t something you can run in your spare time with all the other people out there trying to do the same thing.
Another big complaint is that people are being encouraged to take on debt – including risky credit card debt – and that they end up actually in huge debt after going through The Rainmaker Family’s program. Some of them claim that big parts of that debt went to companies selling services, but who were paying undisclosed referral fees to The Rainmaker Family.
Others claim that they were shown numbers for gross revenue, and misled into think those were numbers for net profits they could make every month. If you don’t know the difference, that would be a really big deal. If I say that I make $1,000 a month, but I’m having to pay all $1,000 of that in expenses, I didn’t really “make” money. “Gross” is all the money that came in. “Net profits” is how much more you had than when you started. Lots of businesses go bankrupt even when they’re taking in lots of money each month – because they spent more than they made.
Some people claim the courses taught them methods banned by Amazon that could get your account shut down.
And one thing that you can see on Trustpilot is that The Rainmaker Family has made legal threats against people leaving bad reviews. Here’s an example:
Legal threats can sometimes scare away people from posting the truth. Some people have even said The Rainmaker Family has included provisions in their contract saying they couldn’t post bad reviews at all, even if true—something that would violate both California law and federal law. We’ve seen example contracts from the company that include provisions that we believe are illegal, which on its own is concerning.
If I signed a contract with The Rainmaker Family, am I out of luck?
No! A lot of companies think they can put language in their contracts waiving all the legal claims you can make. But the law isn’t that simple. There are lots of laws in both California (the place where The Rainmaker Family is based) and by the federal government that protect consumers. And most consumer protection laws, including in California, will say that it’s impossible for a consumer to waive them no matter what contracts they sign.
You might have to go to arbitration instead of court if you want to make a legal claim – but that’s often questionable, too. An arbitration is essentially a private lawsuit – but it’s not confidential.
Can you help me if I think I was treated unfairly or deceived by The Rainmaker Family?
It depends on what happened to you. We’d need to review the details, and the more documents you have and the more proof you have, the better. But we’ve found people who are willing to be witnesses to what they saw, and that helps back up what people are saying. Contact us by completing our claim form here and we’ll see if we can help.
(Nicole’s note) In addition, you can file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission: HERE
FOR THOSE THAT WORKED FOR THE RAINMAKER FAMILY
If you are interested in joining a group that will be researching and potentially taking legal action, please fill out the form: HERE
Report a Labor Law Violation to the state of California (where The Rainmaker Family does business): HERE
File a complaint with U.S. Department of Labor (most important): HERE
For more information or questions about your employment status with Rainmakers, and why you should care, please fill out the form here and we will be in touch. You will also receive an invite to a private group where we can discuss further.
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COMING NEXT WEEK
Installment one of a currently infinite number of stories coming to light. The coming weeks will be full of more information regarding the reality of prosperity gospel, the dangers of false prophecy, the ins and outs of cult leadership, employment law, Amazon FBA sketchy practices, and more.
I can’t wait to share what I’ve learned, continue to learn, and what will happen next.
I was very active in the group. I think I had like 25,000 points or something. One day a woman was asking about debt and cash flow. I advised her to seriously consider her cash flow and the risks of credit card stacking (we just pulled a second mortgage because we were drowning in interest from 8 credit cards). I said I did wish there was more info about cash flow in the RM course, but she could learn more about it from H10.
My innocent comment was deleted and I was accused privately of “bashing”. After that, I decided not to renew my membership, but still had a few weeks left in the group. I had made many friends and so posted that I was thankful for my experience and would be continuing my journey, but was moving on from Rainmakers. I was hoping to connect with the friends I made before I left. I never spoke ill of Rainmakers in any post or comment. Within an hour, I was removed from the group and my gratitude filled goodbye was deleted.
Not only did they kick you out of the Facebook group, but before that, they bombarded you with countless emails, constantly pushing for more money, extra add-ons, new business opportunities, and even offering “free” calls. It was ridiculous! I feel embarrassed that I fell for their misleading promises and deception. I truly respect you, Nicole, for what you’re doing here—I know this journey hasn’t been easy to navigate, but you’re doing it. I’m grateful, and so many of us are! ❤️ your courage and determination is inspiring.